From ddt@iinet.com.auWed Jan 18 07:57:43 1995
Date: 16 JAN 1995 08:35:59 +0800
From: David Bennett 
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.misc
Subject: Re: Women Admins or harassment...

sac26400@saclink1.csus.edu (Sharon L. Barber) writes:

>: If you're a female and that's the way you play, then I have
>: ABSOLUTELY no sympathy for you.  I make my own terms and if the 'guys' can't
handle
>: it, then I find others to play with.

>really don't know too many people that do play that way...I agree, it's
>not harrassment if you ask for it.

Be very careful with this one.  People will say you ask for it by doing a lot
pof totaly innocent things.  Every case should be dealt with carefully.
If somone is complaining about it, then they obviously did not want it.
It would be easy for somone to be just flirting a bit maybe and suddenly
the male character gets totaly distgusting.  There is a very fine line.

As you mention a bit lower.  The 'She asked for it because she was
wearing a provocative skirt'.  Or 'She asked for it because she
was weariunbg a provocative gender' get used way too much as excuses
for inexcusable behaviour on the parts of men (by the parts of men too).

>: and that the female did not bring it on themselves.  I tend to sit in the roo
m with both the

You are working on this from the wrong angle.  You are throwing innocent
until guilty to the window.  You are looking for reasons why the omen
brought it on herself.  This automaticly puts in a position of thinking the
women is in the wrong.

>: I guess my point is... women, don't INVITE the problem.

>You're contradicting yourself here. That is my point. Women don't invite
>the problem sometimes. (I'm sure there are some that do but that's their
>problem then...not what I'm talking about.)

Even if they do invite the problem.  It is still the man doing the
harrasment!  Just because I say something like, gosh I like your fist
does not mean you should hit me.
>: Be sure of who you are and what
>: role you wish to portray while mudding.  If you are an assertive character, t
hen you more
>: than likely will not be harassed.  Don't play the victim and you will be less
 likely to be a
>: victim.  Do not get me wrong, I am NOT saying that all women ASK for the hara
ssment
>: they get or am I putting forth the tiresome arguement "the broad asked to be
raped".  It just
>: isn't so.  Just make sure you fight fire with fire and most likely you will n
ot be harassed.

So basicly.  What you are saying is.  Women cannot play whatever
sort of character they choose.  The have to play a aggressive tough
one?  Gosh, what a choice of career options.

Blue in red sauce,
David.
[DDT] Pink fish forever.